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drumster15





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No. 1 Posted on Dec 7, 2012 10:54 AM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
3 days ago a student of mine asked me how many hours a day should I practice to be really good. In my head I was like dang I have no idea what to tell this kid you know so I told him try as much as you can but do not over due yourself try to actually keep focus on what you're aiming for and do not be noodling (Thomas Lang term for screwing around) Be slow and solid when you do your rolls and all the rudiments you know.
Was it correct what I told him or is there an amount of hours you should practice because that is a question I had so myself. Anyone know around how many hours someone should practice? I do mostly rudiments for about an hour and a half 5 mins each rudiment should I increase time myself?



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No. 2 Posted on Dec 7, 2012 11:01 AM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
Not sure there is set time to recommend. 1 minute of any correct and precise rudiment will beat 5 minutes of sloppy rudiment. I say that purely from use of logic as I confess that I always hated such practice and never did any .... Blush


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drumster15





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No. 3 Posted on Dec 7, 2012 1:41 PM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
so you mean 1 minute per rudiment?
My way of practicing I do singles doubles triplets and quads 4 times and switch for example
1111 1111 1111 1111 switch
2222 2222 2222 2222 switch
3333 3333 3333 3333 switch
4444 4444 4444 4444 back to one or backwards..
I developed that habit because of Thomas Lang I noticed he would play some rolls and he would mix back and fourth



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No. 4 Posted on Dec 7, 2012 2:19 PM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
I don't understand your notation, drumster15. Do you mean what I've written on the following chart?

(Click the picture to view the original one)



StillKicken





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No. 5 Posted on Dec 7, 2012 9:32 PM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
LOL!! Back in the olden days; Jr. High and High school; yes they called it Jr. High back in those days. Anyway our band director (we only had one) made us practice at least 30 min every night and 1 hour each day on the weekends. To keep us honest our parents had to sign a time chart. LOL!! And those 30 minutes had to be mostly rudiments only 13 in those day if I remember correctly.

I got so board I would try to play rudiments in 3/4 time and or jazzy to blues style anything to have a little fun. And sometimes I would get so into it I ended up practicing for an hour or more on some evenings.

Now days...I wish I had time to practice.

sherm


StillKicken edited on Dec 10, 2012 1:09 AM

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No. 6 Posted on Dec 7, 2012 9:47 PM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
Practice till you can confidently play something without even trying. That's when you know you've practiced enough or properly. Proper practice is better than lengthy practice. I quit piano and for a while I was still better than my friends who practiced all the time but didn't practice properly till they nailed it.


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No. 7 Posted on Dec 9, 2012 7:18 PM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
singlestroker yes that is exactly what I meant.. I do everything in 4s and switch i go backwards from 4s to 3s 2s 1s or i mix i go 1 3 2 4 and so on...

I need more effective techniques to practice because I only have like an hour or 2 for pure practicing since I have a daughter and work and I noticed today I have gotten really freaking sloppy my gospel chops, fills and a lot of other things have gotten weak.. I need like advice on getting my hands faster moving around the kit and precise my feet I am currently doing pure paradiddles the flam rudiments and thats it what do you guys think I should do?

P.S I told my students today to practice 30 mins at least what we learned and on weekends 1 hour haha funny thing I come on and someone above me said the exact thing made my day..



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No. 8 Posted on Dec 15, 2012 3:19 PM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
drumster15 wrote:

P.S I told my students today to practice 30 mins at least what we learned and on weekends 1 hour haha funny thing I come on and someone above me said the exact thing made my day..


Great!! That's good to know.

sherm



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knightcrawler





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No. 9 Posted on Dec 18, 2012 3:04 AM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
My band teacher would say, "Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."

In total, I would spend about an hour or 2 practicing due to work and/or school. Now that I'm not in school this is still the same.

I spend about a minute up to five just practicing my rudiments at a steady and slow pace.

Then I would do rudiments

Then I would practice playing music. Mondays and Wednesdays will be rock, funk, or just listening to my ipod.

Tuesdays will be any kind of latin

Thursdays is Jazz

Fridays is just my loose practice and I'll just free play, which is great for soloing.

My goal has never to be great as Thomas Lang or anybody. My goal is to be the best me. The goal is to be confidant on the set.

Now for band practice. Well...that's a whole different story lol.



drumster15





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No. 10 Posted on Dec 18, 2012 10:16 AM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
I see well for me I am trying to play fast paradiddles like Thomas or at least somewhere passing him or around him because its something i would love to adapt to of course I do not want to be like him because every drummer is different in style and all that but I would like to find the thomas in me Lol and you have a lot of time to practice on your kit i only have saterdays for that..i just practice rudiments on a pillow slow to fast 5 mins each but yeahh its complicated when you want to try them on the kit since im limited on practice time..


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No. 11 Posted on Dec 25, 2012 7:32 PM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
@knightcrawler: isn't it Vince Lombardi who used to say that?


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knightcrawler





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No. 12 Posted on Dec 31, 2012 6:45 PM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
@Mendell: Ya know, I never did question my teacher at the time, so I'm guessing so lol.



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