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No. 1 Posted on Mar 14, 2013 6:07 PM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
What's up with calling musicians "cats"? I've heard it so much lately and I don't know what calling a musician a cat means. My band director elaborated that it's just what musicians call each other, but I thought there's more to it than that. Before humans came about, did cats know how to swing or something?


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No. 2 Posted on Mar 14, 2013 11:40 PM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
technique2012 wrote:
What's up with calling musicians "cats"? I've heard it so much lately and I don't know what calling a musician a cat means. My band director elaborated that it's just what musicians call each other, but I thought there's more to it than that. Before humans came about, did cats know how to swing or something?


It's a throw-back to a period which roughly straddled West coast and Cool Jazz era. Beatniks were beginning to get popular attention ... the Beatniks tried to be a little off-the-beaten-path types. The 'glossary' of the times included such references as "Daddy-O"; and I think the word "Cool" had its genesis with the Beatniks ( but I'm not entirely certain of that ) - it carries on today more or less from that period (mid-to-late 1950's). I remember artists literally 'dancing' to poetry-readings, and similar non-traditional expressionistic undertakings. I also seem to recall Coffee-houses being important to Beatnik types; but not universally so (there was drink and drugs, too). A bunch of other such references have since departed my memory. It predated the Hippies-movement by some years (not all that dissimilar, though). A cultural-phenomenon lasting for a short spell - but it did have a bit of an impact.

That sort of thing Smile

You're a Cool Cat to have asked about that bygone era, Daddy-O.



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No. 3 Posted on Mar 16, 2013 5:23 AM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
Good question. About 40 years ago I wondered the same thing. Referring to fellow musicians as "cats" has always remained a sort of "hip" term that non-musicians don't normally use. Even today, it's still a rarely used term mainly by really cool Jazz guys. I'm not cool, so I don't refer to anybody as a "cat". Sad



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No. 4 Posted on Mar 16, 2013 7:31 AM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
Well, being one of the older guys here I do remember some really old movies that were made back in the 40's and the term Cats was used a lot. If they or you did something really cool you could be refereed to as; Man you are the Cat's Meow; or WoW that cool number was the Cat's Meoooow!

So I'm guessing the term started back in the days of Big Band and Jazz.

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No. 5 Posted on Mar 16, 2013 6:07 PM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRO964l_nE

Found this on YOU TUBE.

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No. 6 Posted on Mar 18, 2013 4:50 AM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
StillKicken wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRO964l_nE

Found this on YOU TUBE.

sherm


I noticed that they also spoke on there of "digging" what they liked. Googling suggests that it is another term that may have originated among jazz musicians.

I don't think that either of these terms has found much favour over here in the UK, among musicians or elsewhere.


Singlestroker edited on Mar 18, 2013 6:48 AM


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