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No. 1 Posted on Nov 30, 2012 3:09 PM	Profile \| PM \| Email \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

Hello everyone, I am not sure if this is the right forum for this, but i wast to ask, is there a way to make some thing like a head with cymbals attached to it? sort of like a "jingle head" for a floor tom? <<see poorly drawn attached picture>> I would really like to hear what you think. Cheers

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No. 2 Posted on Nov 30, 2012 7:09 PM	Profile \| PM \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

There probably is a way, but no manufacturer would make one as it would be uneconomical and my question would be why would anyone need it ? Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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No. 3 Posted on Nov 30, 2012 7:15 PM	Profile \| PM \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

That's the coolest tom ever. "Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple." -Charles Mingus

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No. 5 Posted on Dec 1, 2012 8:29 AM	Profile \| PM \| Email \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

Why not just put a tambourine on the head when you need it - as Jim Keltner did on here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqhdRs4jyA By the way, enjoy the song!

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No. 6 Posted on Dec 1, 2012 9:43 AM	Profile \| PM \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

Unsure they actually make these heads any longer, but this is as close to the idea as I was able to find : Click here to open a new window Mapex Saturn * Paiste Terry Bozzio Single-Ply Coated

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No. 7 Posted on Dec 1, 2012 9:52 AM	Profile \| PM \| Email \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

Singlestroker wrote: Why not just put a tambourine on the head when you need it - as Jim Keltner did on here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqhdRs4jyA By the way, enjoy the song! Good idea and I liked the song to. A jingle ring may work. It's just a flat metal ring with jingles attached, I use it on the hi-hat, it just lays on top of the top hi-hat cymbal. Has an amazing cut through the music chick tambourine sound. And I'm hard of hearing!! I purchased one of the new clamp on type jingle rings and I couldn't hardly hear the thing, took it back and they suggested the ring for less than half the price. I never tried it on a drum; tomorrow I have a gig and I'll get the brand name for you; it's berried deep in the back of my truck now. sherm K.I.S.S. = Keep It Simple System

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No. 7 Posted on Dec 1, 2012 2:48 PM	Profile \| PM \| Email \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

StillKicken wrote: Good idea... I think that there's a lot to be said for not getting tied to one line of thinking. All the shiny equipment and gadgets, large and small, associated with percussion can get us looking for a purpose-designed, branded item for everything and using everything for its "official" purpose and nothing else. Of course, that's fine if that's your choice, especially if money is no object. However, a lot of opportunities can be missed, and there are many great effects to be had by just experimenting with what happens to be around. Jim Keltner's tambourine-on-drum-head idea is one of probably hundreds of them waiting to be used. Another that I am sure that others will have seen is a cymbal laid, bell-up, inside the hoop of the drum and resting on the head. Another thing I've played resting on a drumhead is one or more cowbells, which saves mounting them permanently and alters their sounds, giving more choice. I've also played bongos with the backs of wooden spoons. I'm always looking for sounds that I can bring to the band with odds and ends that I come across around the house, the workshop, etc. Singlestroker edited on Dec 2, 2012 4:02 AM

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No. 8 Posted on Dec 1, 2012 5:55 PM	Profile \| PM \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

I think Jojo Myaer used a prototype for that on his snare in one video... I believe it was his Berklee clinic sound check. "Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple." -Charles Mingus

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No. 9 Posted on Dec 2, 2012 6:37 AM	Profile \| PM \| Email \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

To be honest, Ethan, when you say that Jojo Mayer originated "that on his snare", it is difficult to know what "that" is. I'll assume that you mean the cymbal on the head, as I was at one of Jojo's clinics where he demonstrated it. I don't know who originated it, however. How long Ginger Baker, for example, used it before he played the drums on JB Witchdance with Masters of Reality, I'm not sure. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lTQ68iVdoU Ginger demonstrates the method right at the beginning of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDE_3u5RjVA It's a great effect, and there's quite a lot of scope with the different cymbals and drums that can be used.

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No. 10 Posted on Dec 2, 2012 7:36 AM	Profile \| PM \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

Singlestroker - Excellent tip Thanks for sharing that video. The music video was okay - but Mr. Baker demonstrating the technique made all the difference for me. I'll certainly keep this in mind for future reference. Thanks very much - Mapex Saturn * Paiste Terry Bozzio Single-Ply Coated

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No. 11 Posted on Dec 2, 2012 8:12 AM	Profile \| PM \| Email \| Quote \| Search \| Copy \| Favorite

OldFart wrote: ...Mr. Baker demonstrating the technique made all the difference for me... Who would have thought, when Ginger had his former wild lifestyle and image, that he'd become the elder statesman that he now is? Perhaps the legacy of all of that is that he is so underrated. Personally, if I was offered the chance to meet any drummer, then Ginger would be way higher on the list than all of the rest. Singlestroker edited on Dec 2, 2012 8:34 AM

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